Is it safe to say that China is at least 30 years ahead of India?
11.06.2025 02:16
Poka Yoke: Make the design of the systems, so that even “village idiots” (there are many) won’t be able to make things worse in the Eco-system and ruin your experiences.
This so-called race is in my opinion, a Phantasm, that only exists in people’s mind and I would wager that this Phantasm chiefly exists, it seems in India- which is looking at China with a mixture of envy and jealousy.
What is it that you folks wants to ‘Catch up” here??? Just asking not telling.
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And it does not matter, if the technology was invented in Timbuktoo, Africa. Copy Paste, Repeat.
Another Example from Greek Mythology: Hippomenes and Atalanta race. [This is a warning to my country, the USA, really]
Housing: When I land in Hyderabad and travel through Cyber City, I feel like I’m in China.
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Again, in any urban setting in India, the Malls are an eco-system as good as any experience in China.
To Indians, Crab Apples are wild apples that are extremely bitter, but are used to make Apple Cider- an alcoholic beverage, much safer to drink, than polluted water, back in the day.
Any suitor, who wanted to win speedy Atalanta’s hand would have to beat her in a race and if they lose, they would lose their heads.
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Look instead at Pockets of Comfort created within your immediate environs.
Here it is an Eco-system where both Dung and Vishwa seem to be competing for the race to the bottom of the well. 🙄
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Hippomenes distracting the speedy Atalanta to win the race and also her hand in marriage
Hippomenes won the hand in marriage of Atalanta following a running race by distracting her by tossing “golden apples” whenever, he thought, she was gaining on him.
I generally don’t place a time scale on who is ahead or who is behind and by how many years in this “Game of Nations”.
Malls and Cineplexes in the US are dying… and descrepit (Thank you Amazon and Netfix) … So experience wise, you folks have it good. 👏👏👏
India has a space program that seeks to reap military as well as civilian benefits in this so-called race which there is none.
Peace and good luck to all.
Some Examples
Airports: ECO-SYSTEM.
Give yourselves a round of applause. 👏👏👏
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Don’t compare, Don’t Complain.
The model that prompts such a question is based on a “Circus Maximus” model in which Chariot races were run in ancient Rome, where Individual Nations in this example, are run like Chariots. Some are ahead, while some are behind and we are all spectators here.
Instead of giving GDP numbers, GDP/Capita and all those Statistics to make you feel good or bad, I decided to answer Nagarajan Sir’s question in the form of a long meandering discourse.
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Not the distant unheard of thunder from climes and places, thousands of miles away.
What is the experience of an ordinary salaried family to living in this bee-hive?
Also, what does “Ahead” and “Behind” really mean?
What does the stink of the skunk look like? Why would it be dangerous?
Petty Corruption. My mainland Chinese American friends, who travel back and forth to China assure me that petty Corruption is well and alive in China and the ranking by Transparency International, which monitors ‘perception of corruption’ in nations, ranks both India and China about equal. So that seems about right. 🙄
Don’t constantly engage in below the navel gazing, if you know what I mean and most of all Don’t Complain; or at least not so much.
And the plummeting birth rate in China and the aversion to marriage in China and even sex, among the young is increasing exponentially, seems to point to that.
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This begs the question.
Zeno’s answer: NEVER.😫
Look at each individual Eco-system within your immediate environs, that works in your land, in your local Area and if you are not discomfited, then all is fine. “Experience” is the key here.
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AQI (Air Quality Index) Delhi and Beijing… stinks to high heavens. Equivalent to smoking two packs of cigarettes/day even for the non-smoker.
Coming back to Greek Philosophy this time.
That is all that matters really.
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Maybe I should Poka Yoke and Nemawashi my writings as well. 😂😂
Now, it is an experience that is just as good or not as good as any Bank Office in the US or China or any where else.
Excellent staff from all over India. Amazing competence and professionalism shown by all from Doctors to Nurses to technicians, even the lift staff. 👏👏👏
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Never understood what it meant, but now in the winter of my years, I now realize what that means. 😁
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There is the Greek Philosopher Zeno’s paradox.
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But is this what we want to emulate? I don’t know the answer to that?
What is so magical about 30?
China did that and still does that too. And I can’t understand complaints by the US and Russians here.
ECOSYSTEMS where the citizens experiences need to improve.
Any Bank in an urban setting, used to be the equivalent of the famous play by Samuel Becket “Waiting for Godot”, except back then in India, decades ago.
Malls and Cinema Metroplexes
So, here is my proposition.
Another Eco System, where you don’t have to apologize. 👏👏👏
Now for some areas of discomfort.
China is a polity; India is a polity. So far so good.
There is no shame, if one wants to repeat the technology, that was developed by the pioneers such as Russia and the US. The guide book and protocols are all there to emulate (Copy).
So, if China were at all worried, like Hippomenes, that India would overtake them in this “race” that they are not worried about, then they will like Hippomenes toss some thorny crab apples* to distract the nattering classes in India.
Zeno of Elea, born c. 495 BC—died c. 430 BC
It is the same situation, when I learn Newton’s Laws or Calculus. I can freely learn it without breaking much of a sweat. Use some else’s Gyanodayam for literally free.
Viswa Parihasa and Dung Poo Pew Parodox per Zeno
So no harm for Indians to “copy” the technology obtained by sweat and tears and expense of billions of dollars or rubles over decades by the big Two.
I don’t know. I know that if I were young, my sex drive would plummet, Viagra or not.
D-Marts etc.
Brevity is the soul of wit, but what can I say… Verbosity is the soul of a Twit. And I admit to being Verbose.
How long would it take for “Vishwa Parihasa ” to catch up with “Dung Po Pew”.
Beyond that how logical would it be for one to pick a number based on the number of trips, the Planet Earth makes around the Sun?
This paradox argues that Viswa Parihasa, a swifter than Dung runner, can never overtake the slower Dung Poo Pew, who has a head start by the way, because by the time Viswa Parihasa reaches the Dung's starting point, Dung will have moved forward, and Viswa must then catch up to that new position, repeating this process… ad infinitum.
Would that be logical? Yes!
I land at Hyderabad or Bangalore Airports. The airports are spotless, well maintained, orderly and the people follow all the rules, the security is run smoothly like clockwork. The Uber and Taxi System is excellent and smoothly run. So is the Baggage Carousel, Immigration, Customs, etc. etc. WOW!
Not true in many other areas of the country. 🙄
Space race- Technology in general.
Not many will agree with Zeno, because he is a Mlechha Yavana Barbarian.😂😂after all.
Your Corner D-Marts gave me the same “experience” as any that I had in Japan, China or Korea.
Afterall, Whatsapp, FB, mobile smart phones, have all helped us interact as well as avoid pesky and nosy neighbors and relatives.
Well for starters, “Vishwa Parihasa ” must run at a ‘faster’ pace than “Dung Po Pew ”.
I will even wager one of my shares in JD. Com ( a Chinese MNC) that most Chinese are not even bothered to see, if India is “lagging” behind them.
They, in turn, have eyes only for the Good Ole USA.
Give yourself an applause here. 👏👏👏
You were “Waiting for your “Dough”
Anyone, who looks behind to see who’s on their heel. will befall the same fate as all the suitors of the lovely Atalanta in Greek Mythology, who was the fastest runner in the world.
I’ve heard this proverb before: Fools build Houses and Wise Men live in them.
Nemawashi: Small incremental improvements, that make your daily experiences better in whatever “Ecosystem”, you have to interact with.
Let us assume that the Polity called “Dung Poo Pew ” is ahead of the Polity called “Vishwa Parihasa” in some mythical race.
Apollo… Yashoda
Before Desi eyes go somber and tearful, let me explain.
The other factor is TIME. This is where the paradox comes in.
Traffic on Roads. Well, experiences in India. 🙄
High rise in China below:
These Airports are an Ecosystem, where I’m far more ‘comfortable” and have a more ‘pleasurable experience’ than at La Guardia Airport or JFK Airport in New York $hitty. (misspelled intentionally).
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So what I’m suggesting is that rather than constantly comparing and tearing one’s clothes in agony, employ what the Japanese call “Nemawashi” and Poka Yoke
Many lost their heads, as they looked behind to see if Atalanta was gaining on them . Hippomenes was given a head start by Atalanta.